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Are Online Poker Sites Rigged?
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8 months ago
I'm seeing a lot of posts on here that seem to suggest that the cards that are dealt out on certain poker sites are not completely random. I'm sure there may be some smaller sites that may have set up their sites to pretty well drain their players accounts using card algorithms designed to make you lose. So far I haven't come across a site like that. I can't see a larger site, such as Pokerstars or Merge, risking their reputation by not dealing their cards randomly. I think that we play so many hands in online poker that we come across a lot more bad beats and suckouts. These are the hands we seem to remember the most and we forget all the times our KK or AA held up. It's natural to get a little paranoid against the software when we get a lot of these bad beats within a short period. It's easier to blame the site for our losses than perhaps our lack of skill. If anyone truly believes the sites are rigged, I gotta ask, why do you still play?
Edited by gjwalk 8 months ago
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8 months ago
Online Poker is not rigged. There is a site that tests poker sites and the big names have all passed the test. Plus there are so many players running huds that track the percentages of hands that win/hold, and they line up. People would rather blame the site than their play. There is also the fact that it is much easier to remember the times you take a bad beat than when your hand holds because it hurts more.
897
8 months ago
The proof is out there . . . .
The opposite of random is a repeating pattern. Patterns are easily detected through the mass amounts of tracking sites and software out there. Long ago would they have been exposed.
The funny thing about this whole "rigged" argument is that people believe that they detect these patterns by casual observation, yet they somehow are so tricky as to be undetectable by the accumulation of data.
Such is the nature of the game, poker in general, and Hold 'em specifically. Did anyone see Kevin Pollack go out of the Main Event in a QQ vs QQ all in pre flop? Live poker must be rigged too!
The opposite of random is a repeating pattern. Patterns are easily detected through the mass amounts of tracking sites and software out there. Long ago would they have been exposed.
The funny thing about this whole "rigged" argument is that people believe that they detect these patterns by casual observation, yet they somehow are so tricky as to be undetectable by the accumulation of data.
Such is the nature of the game, poker in general, and Hold 'em specifically. Did anyone see Kevin Pollack go out of the Main Event in a QQ vs QQ all in pre flop? Live poker must be rigged too!
curtinsea (#7) wrote: The proof is out there . . . .
The opposite of random is a repeating pattern. Patterns are easily detected through the mass amounts of tracking sites and software out there. Long ago would they have been exposed.
The funny thing about this whole "rigged" argument is that people believe that they detect these patterns by casual observation, yet they somehow are so tricky as to be undetectable by the accumulation of data.
Such is the nature of the game, poker in general, and Hold 'em specifically. Did anyone see Kevin Pollack go out of the Main Event in a QQ vs QQ all in pre flop? Live poker must be rigged too!
Well said. Not only that, but people often forget how poker sites make money. If a player busts, the other player makes the big profit while the poker room gets the rake of only one hand. It would make more sense for them to create lots of split pots, AA vs AA, and so on..The opposite of random is a repeating pattern. Patterns are easily detected through the mass amounts of tracking sites and software out there. Long ago would they have been exposed.
The funny thing about this whole "rigged" argument is that people believe that they detect these patterns by casual observation, yet they somehow are so tricky as to be undetectable by the accumulation of data.
Such is the nature of the game, poker in general, and Hold 'em specifically. Did anyone see Kevin Pollack go out of the Main Event in a QQ vs QQ all in pre flop? Live poker must be rigged too!
People, please remember that you're playing against the players, not the house. An unscrupulous online casino has every incentive to fuck you over because they actually get all of your money, not two percent.
981
8 months ago
ioi (#9) wrote:
People, please remember that you're playing against the players, not the house. An unscrupulous online casino has every incentive to fuck you over because they actually get all of your money, not two percent.
Damn, beat me to it! Exactly what I was going to say....it all comes down to the fact that you are still playing the player. Nicely said Curt and ioi curtinsea (#7) wrote: The proof is out there . . . .
The opposite of random is a repeating pattern. Patterns are easily detected through the mass amounts of tracking sites and software out there. Long ago would they have been exposed.
The funny thing about this whole "rigged" argument is that people believe that they detect these patterns by casual observation, yet they somehow are so tricky as to be undetectable by the accumulation of data.
Such is the nature of the game, poker in general, and Hold 'em specifically. Did anyone see Kevin Pollack go out of the Main Event in a QQ vs QQ all in pre flop? Live poker must be rigged too!
Well said. Not only that, but people often forget how poker sites make money. If a player busts, the other player makes the big profit while the poker room gets the rake of only one hand. It would make more sense for them to create lots of split pots, AA vs AA, and so on..The opposite of random is a repeating pattern. Patterns are easily detected through the mass amounts of tracking sites and software out there. Long ago would they have been exposed.
The funny thing about this whole "rigged" argument is that people believe that they detect these patterns by casual observation, yet they somehow are so tricky as to be undetectable by the accumulation of data.
Such is the nature of the game, poker in general, and Hold 'em specifically. Did anyone see Kevin Pollack go out of the Main Event in a QQ vs QQ all in pre flop? Live poker must be rigged too!
People, please remember that you're playing against the players, not the house. An unscrupulous online casino has every incentive to fuck you over because they actually get all of your money, not two percent.
539
8 months ago
Works off a log type of well better to get info from someone who actually knows what they are talking about. You can find this info on google. Have read a bit about it, seems really complicated. Other sites than carbon use other systems too.
I would be more worried about a payer in a casino hiding a card in their sleeve. Or how the dealer deals out your cards. Once had a dealer everytime he throws my cards at me, it's at a level where if you looked real hard you could see the underside of my cards. Really pissed me off, so I was folding for a minute and only looking at one card. lol
I would be more worried about a payer in a casino hiding a card in their sleeve. Or how the dealer deals out your cards. Once had a dealer everytime he throws my cards at me, it's at a level where if you looked real hard you could see the underside of my cards. Really pissed me off, so I was folding for a minute and only looking at one card. lol
384
8 months ago
I dont think its rigged,like you said,play alot gonna see alot of diffrent types of hands,I grew up watching live poker play (dad and mom owned a bar room/poker room),and I seen many live poker hands that when seen here people yells rigged exp. pre flop AA against KK most say that cant happen in live as much as online so its rigged,lol,I seen it alot in live poker so I just feel its the luck of the draw,here online and live,anything can happen,my 2 cents
440
8 months ago
ioi (#9) wrote:
People, please remember that you're playing against the players, not the house. An unscrupulous online casino has every incentive to fuck you over because they actually get all of your money, not two percent.
but think this way.2 percent from a million hands it's something.and yes i think there is nothing random,because they live from colecting rake.they really need to put a strong hand vs a middle one 2 out of 3 hands.and about PS...hmm let's face it there is no other site with A on river 6/10.but again i really think there is nothing random in online poker(player vs player but there is a soft who deals cards and...)curtinsea (#7) wrote: The proof is out there . . . .
The opposite of random is a repeating pattern. Patterns are easily detected through the mass amounts of tracking sites and software out there. Long ago would they have been exposed.
The funny thing about this whole "rigged" argument is that people believe that they detect these patterns by casual observation, yet they somehow are so tricky as to be undetectable by the accumulation of data.
Such is the nature of the game, poker in general, and Hold 'em specifically. Did anyone see Kevin Pollack go out of the Main Event in a QQ vs QQ all in pre flop? Live poker must be rigged too!
Well said. Not only that, but people often forget how poker sites make money. If a player busts, the other player makes the big profit while the poker room gets the rake of only one hand. It would make more sense for them to create lots of split pots, AA vs AA, and so on..The opposite of random is a repeating pattern. Patterns are easily detected through the mass amounts of tracking sites and software out there. Long ago would they have been exposed.
The funny thing about this whole "rigged" argument is that people believe that they detect these patterns by casual observation, yet they somehow are so tricky as to be undetectable by the accumulation of data.
Such is the nature of the game, poker in general, and Hold 'em specifically. Did anyone see Kevin Pollack go out of the Main Event in a QQ vs QQ all in pre flop? Live poker must be rigged too!
People, please remember that you're playing against the players, not the house. An unscrupulous online casino has every incentive to fuck you over because they actually get all of your money, not two percent.
1507
8 months ago
We all get badbeats and suckouts that's poker so accept it or don't play the game. Also people conplain about badbeats how many of them turned it into a badbeat just from the way they played the hand. Poker has a lot of variance and on any hand anything is possible it doesn't mean the site is rigged. Your going to have good days and bad days when ur having a bad day know when it's time to quit and tommorow is another day. Pots
77
8 months ago
Totally Rigged.....The Sites try to bait you in to thinkin u are better than you are.. Fact is you are not... Most sites can detect if you are Republican or Democrat and lean towards the liberal side of things...also as far as the patterns being able to be detected by the human mind only the most gifted can do this .. i have autism so i can do it in my sleep kinda like rainman so if ever faced by me in a showdown Know that i already see the result, occasionally im tired of playin and feel generous and donate a hand or 2...so good luck all and dont worry if the sites are rigged worry that i'm at your table.... JT187
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8 months ago
gjwalk (#1) wrote: I'm seeing a lot of posts on here that seem to suggest that the cards that are dealt out on certain poker sites are not completely random. I'm sure there may be some smaller sites that may have set up their sites to pretty well drain their players accounts using card algorithms designed to make you lose. So far I haven't come across a site like that. I can't see a larger site, such as Pokerstars or Merge, risking their reputation by not dealing their cards randomly. I think that we play so many hands in online poker that we come across a lot more bad beats and suckouts. These are the hands we seem to remember the most and we forget all the times our KK or AA held up. It's natural to get a little paranoid against the software when we get a lot of these bad beats within a short period. It's easier to blame the site for our losses than perhaps our lack of skill. If anyone truly believes the sites are rigged, I gotta ask, why do you still play?
im with ya on this. if the sites were rigged why would we continue to play? so many people try to say it happens alot online and wouldnt happen in a real live game, but i deal poker and the same beats happen live. its poker, try to learn from the hands you win and lose people
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