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Is Being Aggressive with Draws Good or Bad Play?
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2 months ago
Is being too aggressive with your draws a good play or not? A lot of players are way too aggressive with their draws! My opinion, that's the quickest way to lose your bankroll. Even if you're drawing for a nut flush or straight, you are still drawing!!! And most of the time, you will be up against a made hand, and the odds are difinitely not on your favor. But maybe for you guys who play aggressive with your draws, tell me why this is a good play. I'm always open for opinions. I have seen a lot of hands where those aggressive with their draws lose a lot of money!!! I have also seen a few who hit their draws, but most often they usually come up short.. What do you think? Hoping for some intelligent responses.
Edited by OZarkAce 2 months ago
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2 months ago
Well its an odds thing. flush draw on the flop is 35% thats a fact. without knowing opponants hands. i mean 3 people could have a full house draw on the same flop. if the brd does not pair u have a nut hand around 25%with 4 peaple in or close to that. sometimes a gamble is in order with pot odds and chip stack count in your favor while playing tourney poker. cash game ideas may be differrent but always the same odds.
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2 months ago
I like the aggressive play.
One thing that I look for is extra fold equity so I try to avoid raising to a pot committed or short stacked player.
Edited by Marvin 2 months ago
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2 months ago
I think a draw is nice but when you not complete your hand its nothing.
Dont pay too much on a draw
If your short and need chips ok , but when not and its too expensive .... fold it
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2 months ago
Only play the nuts, a draw is a draw, and way more often than not, you miss. The odds have to be right, but most of the time if i flop 4 to a flush, i don't even want to see the turn, and 70 percent of the time its a good fold.
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2 months ago
There is 1 situation >
draw , later pos , 2 ppl , 35% to flush on turn , only if you are short stack or pot commited , and put the caller in a pair or flush too , You dont want to see the turn
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Romania
Male
#7
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3
2 months ago
Well, you play your draw according to your opponent. Is he a bloody fish who's gonna call you often when you make a play? Just call his bets, keep the pot small (never good to play a big pot with a donk). Is he rather tight, playing very cautiously? Raise, raise, raise ! You know you get reraised only if he has a monster, and if he doesn't he will often enough fold for you to be profitable. I also beleive you should go all the way with straight flush draws, you're only behind if your opponent has like a set or something.. also Ax flush draw is a flip against many overpairs to a board like 7 4 2, especially if you have let's say AJ against TT. All in all, play less the cards and more the opponent.
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2 months ago
Being aggressive with your draws gives you more ways to win and keeps your hands polarized. Now if your playing calling stations you have to kinda figure out how light they will call you down. I vote for aggression instead of playing passive.
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2 months ago
Too agressive, pretty much answers the question, a certain amount of agression is often rewarded, however to lose your stack or bankroll by overagressiveness is just ridiculous. A resonable amount of agression will get you the same answers as overplaying/betting hands and still leave you the opportunity to fold if you get the read that the other players/player is going to call you to showdown or if your semibluff doesn't hit.
143
2 months ago
I prefer agressive play and is the key to wining
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Hungary
Male
#11
163
2 months ago
If away I start to lose I change to aggressive one then
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3
2 months ago
Depends on the size of your stack
163
2 months ago
Depends if I have something important going on at the same time. When you play 50 hours in a week, you might have something that needs done, so I sometimes let the aggressive chase decide if I am in the game or if I get pressing tasks done.
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2 months ago
Playing the player is always best. looking at losses if had, i always want to see their hand. when i don't have a read i'm more apt to go all-in on draws against a player i can't read. or i forget about the other people behind me to act when i do have a player pegged. remember position in your raising of draws. a good player will take you all-in if he smells your on a draw. usually the guy behind ya that you weren't thinking about. remember your position when raising.
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USA
Male
#15
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1 month ago
Being aggressive is always good.. plus your opponent doesnt know your on a draw.. so why even stress yourself over..just keep switchin it up and play with tricky patterns.
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1 month ago
My opinion is that everything is situational in poker and I tend to be more aggressive when I'm involved in a pot. Aggression is the way to go to win the most pots and largest pots, but there are certain situations when being less aggressive can also be just as profitable.
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1 month ago
Check check bet if u hit ur draw
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1 month ago
I think agression has its benefits with draws,
It all depends on if you've been able to make some $$ forcing people to fold through aggression earlier though.
(And if you've won enough pots without having to showdown previously.)

When someone does get sick of your agresive play and raises/calls, you've still got outs with your draw

If you are lucky, you hit one of your outs (and get called a donk!)
If you are unlucky, again you've hopefully made some $$ without having to showdown previously, & you show if someone tries to bluff you, there is a chance you will call without the nuts.

I also try and play my made hands and draws as similar as possible from the same positions, hopefully this means i get value for when i do hit Two pair, a set, straight, flush or boat.

***disclaimer - this sounds good in my head, and i have had glimpses of limited success, i still have issues getting it to work on a regular basis***
T
Slovakia
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#19
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12
1 month ago
Depends on so many factors...
Stack sizes, positions, number of people in hands, style of players and many many others.
But they say it's more useful to bet on draws in multiway pots, because the odds are better then. I mean if you complete the draw then you are most likely better than all opponents, so drawing to nuts in multiway pot really should encourage betting. Even risking allin to get such huge pots is often useful.
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1 month ago
If you are low stacked ship it.Otherwise play the odds to the draw or use it as a semi-bluff
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2123
1 month ago
I am agg with draws when i have 11 or more outs. i was just in a game where i had an open ended strait and flush draw and was betting half pot to 2/3 pot every street. well on the turn he decides to go all in, well i have 17 outs so i call and get there. i like the math of poker. even if most of the time on merge it dont add up like it should. i think they have 12 A 's in the deck for the fish who call A-rag on the reg and hit everytime.
Edited by complex1 1 month ago
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3332
1 month ago
Theres never a time not to be agressive. If there is a time where there isnt a chance to be agressive you probably should of been agressive 15 mins before that. Go out swinging and never blind out.
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1 month ago
Hmmm. sometimes i bet the draw,usually that only happens if im 12 bbs or less or im big stacked. if im on button and checked to me,why not get a free look on nut flush or strait,u dont want to scare out a smaller flush.the key is on flushes only play k or ace high suited hole cards to begin with,except late in game or early suited connectors good. ive been burnt 2 many times on q high flush or lower. also if u have top 2 pair or a set ,PUNISH those draws. in ploh its all DIFFERENT, been burned too many times with top set on flop and also burned top set.i fold sets all the time in ploh. a lot players in ploh wont give them up on river or even a lousy pair of aces.summation-punish draws,and only in a certain set of circumstances bet on a draw
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1 month ago
Being aggressive is one thing, chasing is another. If there's one big thing that I've learned from Stud that's helped my holdem game is to never get caught chasing. It will always burn you in the long run.
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4 weeks ago
I think it depends as well I had a hand once where I had both a str8 and a flush draw so when one of the two other ppl in the hand raised big, I had no problems calling it...and I did hit my flush...of course, the person who went all in on a bluff when I had already hit was none too happy, but that was his own fault, lol...sometimes they pay off big, just don't always be a chaser, you'll lose more times than not.
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