Absolutely not allowed to chip dump.

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Tm1...utg ..1400...( KK ) limps 100
all fold to
tm2...2900....(AK) raise to 500
all fold to
tm1............re-raise 900 to 1400 ( all in )
tm2....folds

is that right...??,,,if it is....

the KK limp is a play designed for one reason and one reason only....to fish for a raise pre flop...a raise that can then be reraised all in...
if tm 2 is a good player, they would recognize this play..and fold...

if they are not so good...they would call with their AK and face a 3 out chance....

the fact that tm2 showed leads me to believe that they were not tapping their hands to eachother before the decisions were made....

looking at the chip sizes there would be no reason at all for a dump here...unless tm 2 had to leave....and intuitively, i dont think that was the case...but i may of course be wrong about that.

i think this was well played all round...by tm 1 and 2....sounds like a square hand to me...and i have a fair bit ( 4 years ) of experience in team play...i've seen it all just about....but theres always something new...yup....

no...it doesnt look like a dump to me.

Yeah it looks bad but if he was chip dumping would he even show the AK,maybe he knows how tight his teammate is,they might've discussed if he pushes then he's most likely got the nuts but i'm just throwing out some excuses,if the relevant parties want to look at it then that's fine as this goes against the rules of the lge,i have had to get involved with my teammates many times when i don't want to.

Monkey you sure? The was on the same team. lol

Just remembered about a thread here about ' do you overplay AK '....anyone else remember it..??....dont know where to find it...but it would make very interesting reading re this situation.

If they were on the same team...so what...its exactly how i would play the hand with ak against another loony....
i dont like to flat utg with kk...it allows the A ragger to get incheap...but i do SOMETIMES make that play with AA...yup....

some teams play hard-play, rather than soft-play against eachother...its a very successful strategy...it works...and its perfectly legal...i think this is what happened here....

the fact that they showed the AK makes me think even more that it was a square hand...

an example...very similar to this...

i was playing in a 1 on 1 clan game...
my team mate utg raised 4xbb to 400
all fold to me
holding QQ
i shoved all in
he folded
i showed QQ...he didnt show...but later told me he had AK...

there is no evidence at all here to suggest a dump with the AK to the KK....the only evidence i see suggests square play.

Its hardly the same given whats in the pot to the call. 550 already in the pot which he has put in. So 900 to call into a like 2k pot so 2-1. As if people dont call. You cant sugar coat it.

The only thing i'm suspicious about was it was only 900 more to call for a pot of 2.5k out of a chipstack of 2.9k the player had,this is the thing about playing like teams on here as you can't prove it 100% so therefore they should either change rules or just allow teams to help each other as there will be allegations all the time.

Think rules need to be changed

And i was just railing a fellow loony..and the player in question happened to be on the same table...and i was pretty disgusted by the way the player was being harangued while playing....

is this sort of thing common on this site..??...harassing other poker.org players at the tables...???..its still going on after 15 minutes....v sad...

this matter should have been dealt with privately, or publically after the game, imo...and a player should certainly not be harassed at the tables while playing their game...under any circumstances....

ahh..break time,.,chill out..smoke a fatty...drink a beer.

Its not harresing rules aee there for a reason its simple.

Ok..lets get into the swing of the thing....

lets change the rules....lol..new rule no.23...if you bet, you must call when re-raised.....

we like it....nurssseeeyyyyy...!!...med trolley over here please..

Its harrassment...and its still going on now...

what rules are you talking about...the new rule 23 as stated above..?

I've done all ins with AK, and have folded with AK. Does not sound like a dump to me. I would be more surprised if the Cowboy was doing the folding pre-flop.

Really over looking it. I will remember that when i raise my team member and i need to call for 10 chips and i fold because i dont have to. No need to sugar coat what happened it happened end of.
No the rule of chip dumping pretty simple, either you cant or you can think you should because these plays are blatantly dumps. It dont take a Expert to figure it out.

Ok lets just see what the boss says. If you cant see it its pretty bad for the chips they had to call with the stack. Its super fishy its pretty ob IMO

No chipdumpin to teamates is a rule that cannot be enforced period that is why guru and org should allow it like other crew events on other forums.

I personally could care less i just want this series over with i feel like a runner with 1 bad leg and blisters on my other feet maybe even broken lol.

It dont take a psychotic to be paranoid either.....

is there any previous of these people dumping..?....its nice to see ebretta talking sense.

Org does not want to be like other crew cups. Thats why the rule has not changed. And it wont change. There is a big difference between this league and other league. and the prizes are one of the big difference.

And it is being enforced. A few might be doing it. And getting away with it. But sooner or later. they will get caught.

It doesn't look anything like a chip-dump to me. Overplaying AK isn't unusual at all.

Please knight who are you bsin?? It cannot be enforced period for every blatant chipdump i can come up with valid excuse. 2 more games left please lets get thru them and end this pain.

The above matter is great teamwork from what i can see totally awesome i commend them wish i had them on my crew both sofa and pricey oh wait they are at other forum lmao.

And as for the trash talking at tables Monkey,this only started this series and i have noticed it also,this has always been a friendly forum until some others joined and who trashtalk all time while at table and sometimes in the forum,it's bang out of order and no need fo it imo but they are too stupid to realise what they are doing it seems as they keep on doing it.

I agree totally with RK... chip dumping...when it does happen, needs to be rooted out...it spoils the game...but to accuse a fellow player of cheating publically is just not on...imo...especially not until evidence is gathered and case proved ....and if it is proved...sure...go public...expose away....

and certainly not accused publically while they are playing a game and cant defend themselves without losing concentration on their play....

i am sure this matter will get sorted out by the local authorities...

til then....HANG EM HIGH..!!!!...( shome mishtake, shurely...ed..).

So do you agree with chipdumping then Iceman? as i have noticed u seem to want to do it and have argued about this before,it doesn't matter what u say,if Guru and whoever think it's a chipdump it will be dealt with,i think that's what Royal was trying to say but i'm sure he can speak for himself.