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I got called a fish in this hand. Is there any merit to that comment?
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8 months ago
I'm new to playing online poker for real money and until this last week I have only played around the kitchen table.
Both of my parents are avid poker players though and play ALOT and they are the ones I play poker with around the kitchen table.
My Dad just recently gave me a MC-GiftCard for a present to play online poker. So far I have only played a handful of tournaments and mostly just the FirstDepositor $500Freerolls on the Merge network. Oh and I have also now finished reading two poker books as it was part of the deal my Dad made with me for using the giftcard to play online poker (I read Collin Moshmann's Sit'ngo book & Harrington On Holdem Vol.1). I also watch my Mom & Dad play poker sometimes but usually only when they are doing good in a tournament and especially only when my Dad is in a good mood, ha ha ha.
Today I was playing in this Freeroll for the 3rd day in a row.
It was very early in the game when this hand came up.
I was dealt 5d4d in BUTTON position.
A guy raised in UTG position and because we were both sitting with alot of bigblinds I thought it might be a good spot to call. This guy seemed to be very aggressive and was raising preflop alot! Maybe this time he had a big hand cuz he was UTG but I thought this might be a good thing because then if I hit my hand I might stand to win a BIG pot (which I think is called 'good implied odds' spot).
So I call. And guy in BB calls too.
I flop an open-ended draw to a straight but there is also a flush draw potential on flop but other than that I think this is a pretty good flop to bet if the other guy checks.
BB checks & then UTG checks and I choose to bet about two-thirds of the pot (hoping to win it right then because they seemed weak).
BB folds and UTG calls.
Hmm I am thinking he might have JJ, TT or maybe Flush Draw but I think he would bet out with the flush draw. Then I thought he might have KK but as soon as I thought this I then thought 'well if he has set of Kings and I hit my hand I am going to win a really big pot!'
Turn - YES!!! I hit my straight!
He checks to me again so I bet almost two-thirds of the pot again and he calls. Now I am actually thinking he really has KK and has set YAY!
River he checks. I think 'oh no. he does not have KK. He must have Flushdraw or maybe 10-10 and he is going to fold. I will bet on smaller side cuz I really want a call here. I bet just under half the pot and to my surprise he re-raises me allin.
I was so shocked it took me a few seconds to hit the call button.
I called and showed him the nut straight winner. He turned over 66 for a flopped set.

Then he makes a bunch of comments in the chat saying I'm a fish and then says 'FISH' 'FISH you call me with 54 you FISH' a bunch more times. but I thought I played it good??

Do you think this is a fish play or did I play it good?

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2
8 months ago
Your position here is perfect....
ya decide to play yer 45 sooted on the button to a bet...and why not indeed....its early doors...why not gamble a bit..:)...

i like the way ya played the hand...yer analysis is well reasoned imo...the 666 tried to play it clever and trap ya....a big mistake of his/hers not shoving on top of your bet on the flop...esp with both flush and straight draws out there...saying that...he/she does have 10 outs ( by the river) for the boat...but there are 15 outs against him....( i think ..if i counted right..)...16 if one includes the non heart K...

he/she made the mistake...not you...you played it great....

the trapped becomes the trapper...the trapper becomes the trapped....

nice hand...well played...glgl to ya..:)
Edited by monkey 8 months ago
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22322
8 months ago
You played ir correct. Early in the game you are able to play such hands from late position.
If you don´t hit, you can still give up the hand cheap, but if you hit - like this hand shows - you can win a big pot with it, because villains normally can´t put you on this hand.
T
USA
Male
#4
632
8 months ago
There is absolutely nothing wrong with your play. You got in cheap pre-flop with suited connectors against an aggressive UTG player. That's the kind of spots you want to be in against these types of players.

Aggressive players who end up in plenty of pots oftentimes don't get to play premium hands like these and score pots with bluffs and mid pairs. When they get really do hit this, they typically never consider what could possibly beat them because the hand is a hundred times better than the average hand they've won with.
1288
121
8 months ago
I love hands like this cant ask for more from the poker gods your going to find out that alot of baby play online that is why i dont look at chat the way i see it call me anything you like but keep gaving me your chips nh and well played
1769
8 months ago
Awsome playing Maddie, cant get much better than that.
9
8 months ago
Well played he just bad loser so don't woory about chat box an keep play'n ur own game
5
USA
Male
#8
77
8 months ago
Ahhahhahhahha . well played and great hand annalysis. u absolutely played this hand correctly.. u were willin to ship-it due to the large blinds and got lucky the hand hit for a very nice trap... in my opinion Raisin 66 UTG was the Fish move. take care and best of luck 2-ya.
972
8 months ago
Hmmmmm ... you win the hand .... he call s YOU a fish .....I'd call him an idiot and a baby at that.
2113
11
8 months ago
He made the mistake in slow playing his trips,looks good on him,you are a much better player than he is and he will probubly never improve his game,it was a free roll,learn from their mistakes and you will continue to improve your game!!
27
8 months ago
I love playing those hands if the price is right. You played it well.

Never worry about what you are called in an online game. Turn chat off. Lot of internet bullies around. Good luck.
347
8 months ago
I love it! & JT's right,the utg raise w/66 is a tad fish-y...any callers are prolly already ahead of him.In your case,after the flop you're better than 3-1 to hit the str8 on the turn,& yeah,his 'trap' truly did backfire :)
743
122
8 months ago
Everyone wants to be the Villain -- well played
391
8 months ago
Hey ezzzzzz can i be a VILLIAN 187 this was a read u sat and thought it out so u don't worry about this kind of player .Just play the way u are good call NINER
1483
8 months ago
Very nice hand , I probably would've played it the same way
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8 months ago
Nah, the only fish was your opponent. What was he doing slow playing after the flop? There was a straight draw and a flush draw. He should have jammed it right there and got you out of that hand. I guess your hand wasn't in his list of eligible starting hands that he keeps beside his computer
710
1113
8 months ago
..........................................................................................Players that say these kind things after losing a hand are usually that which they are accusing others of being. This holds true with your situation, as he misplayed pre flop, then continued to misplay by slow playing (check calling) with a coordinated board post flop , and grossly misplayed by over playing (all in with losing hand) at show down on the river. Perfect "fish" play and your solid play was rightfully rewarded and should not give the loser's word the time of day. It sounds like you are doing things right in your efforts to improve your poker skills , and that means you will encounter more and more "pot calling the kettle black" rants from opponent you've sent to the rail.
260
8 months ago
As others have mentioned, u dint do anything wrong, he only raised to 2.5xbb pre, then his lack of shipping the flop was also weak. i wouldnt call him a fish either,i have tried to trap only to lose to the flush or straight on the river, its part of poker imo. i have learned the trap only works 5% of the time so i try not to use it unless i am certain i can not be drawn out on, so if i had the 66 i wouldve limped pre sitting utg and assuming i seen the flop w/o a raise i wouldve shipped the flop. if i were u, i wouldve called the same game as u, i say well done and ignore the haters, they will always be there.
127
8 months ago
Hell I get called a fish ALL the time, just ask CrimeZone hehehe but at the end of the day its poker with risks that make a good pot...this guy didnt play his hand very well in my opinion and your deductions were spot on, catching your str8 on turn made your betting sweet :) of course had the board paired he would not have said a dicky bowto you :) I love playing them small sooted connectors often they reap big rewards...may all your hands be monsters :)
7
New Zealand
Male
#20
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13
8 months ago
I cant see that you did anything wronge
things like 45 56 67 are called AA killers for a reason
early in the game so blinds are cheap
and if you hit like you did then up you go
you didnt fish ether fish tend to check call
you bet out and got paid
im sure thats what your meant to do in poker
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11
8 months ago
Your play is fine. I don't play as many of the suited connectors as I used to but any of the ones for the baby straight.....basically meaning any combo from 2-5 I'm calling an early position raise on the button as long as the price is right. I mean so many players will stack off tptk that it is just worth as long as u don't wrap too much money up in the draw. For example if he check raises hard you should just be able to let it go there because even though you hit that and may hit again next time it just isn't profitable in the long run as I'm sure you know. With that being said, anybody raising sixes UTG (Unless you are short stacked and jamming) it is clear they are a fish so you shouldn't let what they say bother you.
594
8 months ago
The play was fine, the amt to see the flop was cheap, you hit on the turn..he slowplayed the trips..he was upset because of the bad beat he took..it happens.
2043
2313
8 months ago
You played it well and did what you think was right which it was , always remember that there are cruel people out there and you will be called all kinds of things things from players , to me when they do this they are just poor loosers , i been playing a long time online and live poker and been called plenty of things some that hurt sometimes but you just have to put those things behind you and go back to playing your game, i see you are not on a team yet you might want to check ariund to see who are looking for players and get on a team , first game is in 9 days and closes in 5 days for registration and ofcouse you can play for yourself but lose certain benifits not being on a team , your decistion ofcouse and gl to you on the felts, masmaddie
1071
8 months ago
Nice play,ignore this idiot ,yes i say idiot why would he re raise you all in ,id love to know what he put you on,hes probably more annoyed with is stupid move after your bet.bet he wises he had just called.well played and nice to hear what you was thinking after the flop,turn and river,my guess about him is he was thinking 666 was the nuts.
1076
22131
8 months ago
Always this kind of players still around good players so you always need to be carefoul with this kind of players, if you can read their style before they kick you with stupid calls. It was good played, for me i think a better raise fold preflop and a big continuation bet on flop makes him to fold.
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