I have never really got into playing cash games online for a while now...but i would play JJ just like any other mid pkt pair call a small raise or limp in if you don't hit or the board comes out higher than ya or you just feel you are beat then fold

In my opinion, a better raise is good..in order for fishes not to pay with nothing...but hm..dont know what to say JJ is not such a perfect hand...if you dint hit the board...you have to fold it..so as Ravenkitty says....play it like a middle pair..raise a lot and if the board has ace,king or queen ,fold..KK and AA are the only pairs who need to be treated carefully..how can you say when you raise you always lose? When you have a card..you have to carry on balls and attack the flop,turn and river so I really dont believe you that you are saying that you always lose when raise..when raise..you should win 80 procent of the cases.

I don't play much holdem cash games but I play a lot of stud hilo and omaha hilo on pokerstars.
And yes I do find the same as you!! As soon as you start raising or getting aggressive it seems that the cards always fall badly. And the levels I play at people just don't lay down so they inevitably hit something.
I have found the most profitable way is to let them bet into you!

JJ is a type of hand that will ususally make you lose chips/money,because other players often might have a bigger pair like QQ(that happens to me).So,be careful when playing JJ.

Lol yes, the problem isn't about the action. It's about the cards you have. It seems that JJ is always a losing hand, and even the pros struggle to play it right.

Lol, like same problem here: I'm betting, and it's like a snowflake on a mountain top, they start raising or reraising. Some times I think (but don't believe) that it's better to limp. Why don't believe? Because that will cast an image of passive and weak player upon you, so you'll have no respect at the table, facing again bets, raises...
Then, as said above: a bigger bet I don't know if it's a good idea (not speaking for JJ)! A bigger bet will only be called by a better hand, one that possibly have you beat... The idea is to have weaker holdings/players in the pot, that's from where one gets his money, not coinfliping against AA or KK.
JJ I play ravenkitty way: overcards on the board are likely to be in someone's pocket, then it's very easy to represent with such board; both you and the opponent... 6th sense and poker xp are at work here.

My problem is when my raises are re-raised by an aggressive opponent.
It seems like I always make the wrong choice.
Call it and they will flop the nuts. Fold and they will show garbage.

Well thanks for the replies. And I do see it happens to others. And yes NEAPUIU, I do mean I lost most of the time when I do the raising. But I run into a lot like Marvin says, reraises. And most of the time it is more than I want to take a chance on. But the way I usually play is like nobby1510 says, I let others bet into my hand, and then when I hit I can play the hand like i want to. But you know, one day is much different than another.

Man thats tough that you are running against over-pairs with pockets like that. I understand you don't want to risk the re-raise, especially if you aren't able to read into the play of your opponent in the ring game. I don't think its bad to fold here, I might make the leading bet if I have a chance and it is me and one other player in the pot, but if there are multiple people that called my raise pre-flop there are very high odds that some one hit a better face cards. It's a tough position to be in all around. That is such a great debatable position to talk about. I'm excited to see some more theories and opinions about this situation.

If I'm in late position and there's a bunch of limpers, I'll follow suit and limp with JJ. Your raise is not going to narrow the field when alot of people limp. Just call and go from there.

If I'm in early position, I fold JJ in full-ring. It's not a great early position hand. In 6-max, I'll raise if folded to when I'm UTG+1 or better.

If at flop all checked and he bet then if only overcard was king i woulda called, his bet very fast,like i had somthing to, see what he did on turn,in cash games i find i make more money when i play the player,if he was stealing or he may had a mid pair so a fast call there would make him check the turn or small bet with mid pair,if he made a big bet here time to fold he has a strong king but a check or small raise i woulda come over the top of his bet again a strong king would make him reraise so you still not in to deep and can fold but more time then not he would then fold unless pocket pair also then he may have called but on river with a mid pair he should check after your reraise earler depending how you feel at this point his checking the river says hes worried about you,you can play it safe here and check,probly you ahead there i would think,but a pot size raise there would let you to win the pot even if he had king, his turn and river play would tell me if he has a king its weak and you could then steal it,MTTs (multi table tournaments i play my cards 90 percent of the time but in ring or cash games low buyin i play the player 90 percent of the time,i lose a pot sometimes but build my bankroll in the long run playing like this.when you cant look someone in the eyes you gotta get a read on them by useing your chips,also if you want your raise to make all fold preflop yes even a overbet there would be better say $3.50 or more,but if you gonna raise with jj and a pot bet on turn made you fold with one over card then try to just start calling the blind,my opinion only lots of ways to play this hand,but in cash games low blinds you gotta try and win with good hole cards,someone told me once,best way to lose you poker money is play with scared money,but diffrent strokes for diffrent folks, my game has a little gamble in it but it works for me gl in your games

Whether you raised or not on that hand, once that king hit the glop your odds changed.

I don't know about you but i think most people continuation bet anyway these days but with 4players in the pot then i would think someone would be holding a K,JJ is one of those hands that annoys me but if only a K on flop then i think i would've tried to re-raise to find out exactly where i am and if he chooses to call or re-raise then take it from there,i wouldn't just give up because of the K on flop,he could've been sitting with a mid pair or AQ,etc but i understand your predicament,JJ doesn't look so good when overcards like K hits flop and also with 4players in the pot so a fold there isn't so bad,maybe try and raise abit more pre-flop next time and hope to get rid of cpl of players,JJ is 1 of they hands i hate tbh.

Hey thanks again for these good replies. It's funny because when I catch JJ the first thing I think is omg here I go again with this losing hand lol. But like everyone else, I have won some pots with that hand but i sure don't start out like it is a monster.

I tend to avoid cash games for exactly the same reasons you have outlined. I find that the hand range seems to be much wider than tourney play and players are willing to call with a much wider hand range. Very hard to win with JJ when you have got 4 callers.

U mighta been up against a-k most find that hand hard to fold-was ur pot better a lag player -if so they would have called ur bet j-j is one of those hands u take down big pots with or lose big pots -i like the min raise with j-j 10-10 since u had players to act after u -you realy havent comitted much money if u hit a dry flop or get re-raised u can still get away from hand easily just my thoughts