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PokerTableRatings to offer opt-in function for PokerStars
PokerTableRatings has caved in to legal demands from PokerStars and has removed all data for the site's players. The data-mining service will now introduce an opt-in service for PokerStars players instead.
The dispute between data-mining site PokerTableRatings and PokerStars has taken a new turn, as the player directory tries to fight back demands from the world's largest poker site.

The controversy started last week when PokerStars issued a legal threat against PokerTableRatings, alleging that the service was infringing intellectual property rights by offering detailed insights into the site's personal player data.

PokerTableRatings lamented PokerStars' actions, but eventually caved in to the demands and promptly removed the site's search function for all PokerStars players.

However, in a new turn of events, the service is now seeking to re-introduce the search function for PokerStars player data by offering an opt-in function that will work around PokerStars' demands.

Instead of automatically offering data insights, PokerTableRatings will now ask players to accept to be included in the site's offering, a spokesperson writes on the company blog.

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"[PokerStars representative] Lee Jones recently stated that players who wish to share their results should have that right, as well as the right to privacy if they so choose. We think we can work within this stipulation," the spokesperson writes.

The new opt-in service has already been on the drawing board for PokertTableRatings for a while, the spokesperson claims, but the process will be speeded up significantly as a result of PokerStars' claims.

"We have held this idea in our minds for quite some time. Unfortunately a service like this isn't something that can be developed overnight. It has taken several months of planning and development to flesh out he concept for such an endeavor and it signals a dramatic change to our operation. Though we're not quite ready to unveil this new feature to the public yet, the recent action taken by Stars has forced us to kick this project in high gear," the statement adds.

The opt-in function for players is not an entirely new concept, and is already used by other data-mining sites like SharkScope, which offers detailed data access for tournament and sit & go players.
Posted by David
Poker.org News Editor
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1 year ago
As I understand, only the players who will explicitly state they want to have THEIR data and stats shared, will be visible in PTR searches.
Wondering why a player would want to do that?
Bragging, references?
Well I liked to look at my stats to see the trends and if I am able to make some losses away already or how low in red I am staying.
But all those professional grinders have this in their holdem manager and similar programs stats and I see no reason why they would want to have this visible for other players other than brags.
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1 year ago
Everything it's just a brag, that's why you want to have it visible
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1 year ago
I think that pokerstars want to hide their bot's house because, why a company so huge like that, will care from you???? the newbies that has 0 knowledge from poker are playing poker without tracker, without nothing.. they just want to play but they doesnt know that you can use a tracker or buy hand histories. If they don't know it, how this will help them?
A guy that born blinded doesn't know the things that is losing because he never saw.
Edited by cuernatoro 1 year ago
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1 year ago
Just like sharkscope I knew this would be how PTR responded. Wonder what the real motivation behind this was? The playing field was level anyone could search any player and be searched as well. Purchasing HH's however is where I draw the line though.
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1 year ago
Cuernatoro you are right about these thought of urs that a huge company infact probably biggest poker company i am not sure about this one, will not want this service from other website they can invest small amount do this on their own with their player data if they want and nobody can said anything because tht would be legal and fair its their own software data which they create not take from somebody else and it rightfully belong to them for use. i think so too that most player wud not like see another website for this info they wud rather use theirs own software or inbuilt hand history and yes u r right abt blinded guy he wud not want this if he not use ever use this it like giving hairbrush toward a bald man.
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1 year ago
For players profecionales esimportante manage their data in such sites. I think this is learned to see each of the errors that are committed, in some cases